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Islam is most certainly an Abrahamic Religion as Islam finds its genesis in Ishmael born to Abraham through an adulterous relationship with Hagar. Ishmael is the progenitor of a people our Creator refers to as “wild donkeys” and it is through Abraham’s infidelity with Hagar that Lucifer-Satan has publicly introduced himself to mankind. It is important to note at this point that Ishmael is not the son of promise but only through Isaac born to Abraham and Abraham’s wife, Sarah, was the promise of Messiah-Yeshua manifest to the World.
Lucifer’s sin in the Kingdom was covetousness, for Lucifer passionately desired to be like the Most High and desperately desired God’s worship, authority, dominion. Lucifer, a beautiful cherub angel, coerced one-third of the entire angelic realm to follow him in a cosmic rebellion, a coup de taut, against our Creator, Jesus Christ-Yeshua; therefore, Lucifer and the rebellious angels (now demons) were removed from the Kingdom. Our Creator spoke into existence the realm of Time and within the constraints of Time, our Creator placed this Universe, Earth, mankind and Lucifer.
And He said to them, “I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.” Gospel of Luke 10:18 (NASB)
It was in the Garden of Eden that the struggle between Yeshua and Lucifer/Allah was initiated and that struggle can be observed throughout the pre-flood and post-flood generations with its most virulent episode manifesting at the Crucifixion of Yeshua. It was not until the 7th-Century (622AD+-) that Lucifer publicly introduced himself through a pagan Moon-God (Allah) and the plagiarized writings of a murderer, thief and pedophile named Muhammad AKA Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim (Born: April 22, 571 AD///Died: June 8, 632 AD, Medina, Saudi Arabia)
Important note before we continue: In Paul’s letter to the Church at Corinth, by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, Paul writes the following concerning Satan: “No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” (2 Corinthians 11:14, NASB) Of the 360 gods worshiped at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god. Is the Holy Spirit, in Paul’s letter to the Corinthian Church, identifying the god of Islam/Allah-Satan (a moon god) by referring to him as a disguised “angel of light”? It’s interesting that the Moon is not actually a light but the Moon simply reflects the splendor of the Sun, the true light that lights the entire Earth. The Moon is a lesser light that governs the darkness (Genesis 1:16) and does NOT express the glory of the True Light. “Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, ‘I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.’” (John 8:12, NASB). Finally, in 2 Corinthians 4:4, Satan is described in this manner: “in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”
It is through the way of Islam that Allah-Satan has received power, dominion, worship, as he fervently battles against the people of Yeshua i.e. the Jews and the Christians. Allah-Satan finds acceptance and legitimacy by touting the relationship of Islam with Abraham. Yeshua speaking concerning the attributes of Allah-Satan has warned us…
“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a and the father of lies.“ The Gospel of John 8:44 (NASB)
Allah-Satan conspired with Hitler and untold others to destroy the Jew, but Allah-Satan in his efforts to annihilate the Jewish people unwittingly inspired the “Never Again” movement and the Nation of Israel was reborn (1948); the struggle between Allah-Satan and Yeshua has exponentially increased subsequent to the fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecy (Ezekiel 34:13). It will ultimately be Islam-Allah-Satan and his allies, Russia-China-Arab Coalition, that sparks the coming Apocalypse that will be a nuclear war initiated in Jerusalem, Israel. Yeshua will be victorious!
“I
will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries
and bring them to their own land; and I will feed them on the mountains
of Israel, by the streams, and in all the inhabited places of the
land.” Ezekiel 34:13 (NASB)
Praise to God the Father for His all encompassing compassion and love and mercy. All glory and honor to Yeshua who is victorious over the Evil One and has set the captives free from death in sin and death in Hell via His love, faithfulness and mercy at the Crucifixion. Praise and worship and eternal gratitude to the Holy Spirit for His faithfulness, wisdom, intercession, tutelage and compassionate love with much patience. Amen!
Finally, all available evidence in Scripture leads to the conclusion that had Lucifer not rebelled, there would be absolutely no reason for the creation of Time, the Universe, Earth, Mankind or Hell. This LIFE, constrained by Time, is nothing more than preparation for Eternity. Every man, woman, child has been provided a unique opportunity to take part in God’s Plan of redemption where our Creator is currently seeking those who will be faithful to serve Him throughout Eternity. The Key to finding life and purpose in Time and in Eternity is Jesus Christ and trusting in Jesus as your personal Savior and LORD…there is no other way for mankind to find righteousness (a right standing) before God the Father and there is no other way to find life in Eternity without Jesus Christ as your Mediator for sin.
Yeshua-Jesus said…
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” Matthew 7:15-20 (NKJV)
Islam will ultimately be the “spark” that ignites the coming Apocalypse that will be initiated in the City of Jerusalem…the coming Nuclear War that will engulf all of the Nations that come against our LORD’s chosen people, the Jew. Our Creator, Messiah-Yeshua, will be victorious over the Nations that coalesce and conspire to destroy Israel and this victory will initiate the Millennial Reign of our LORD…the Lamb of God who entered Time as a suffering Lamb and will rule and reign over the Nations as a Conquering Lion from the Tribe of Judah.
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There MAY be an answer from science someday. Whatever we humans cannot fathom can only be answered by our imaginations. Those, for some, lean toward the ancient idea of "gods". Others look for a more reasonable answer based on our developing intelligence.
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Stars formed, planets coalesced, and on at least one of them life took root.
Through a long process of evolution this life developed into the human race.
Humans conquered fire, built complex societies and advanced technology .
All of that so we can argue about nothing.
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each give their versions and take a vote on it .........
Africa
Americas
MesoamericaEdit
Mid North America
South America
Asia
Central Asia
East Asia
Indian subcontinent
Europe
Middle East
Pacific Islands/Oceanic
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Claims are not evidence. I'll admit I scanned your OP (did you see how many words that was?!), but I didn't see any evidence justifying your belief that the claims of the Bible (regarding the origin of everything) are true...much less why anyone else should be convinced. Did I miss it?
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Evidence for our Creator
Introduction
“Christianity is the only coherent worldview with corresponding truth that defines origin-meaning-morality-destiny and directly answers with logical consistency, empirical adequacy, experiential relevance.” (Ravi Zacharias) There is ONE God and ONE Mediator for sin, Jesus Christ-Yeshua (1 Timothy 2:5).
“There are honest doubters and dishonest doubters. An honest doubter is willing to search out the truth and live by the results; a dishonest doubter doesn’t want to know the truth. He can’t find God for the same reason a thief can’t find a policeman.” Adrian Rogers
Three-forms of evidence validating our Creator, Jesus Christ-Yeshua…1) Nature
2) The Incarnation of God in Time
3) The Written Covenant between God and Mankind
1) Empirical – Preliminary – Substantive – Observable Evidence = NatureThe Universe, encompassing the Sun-Moon-Stars-Earth, descending downward to the complex human genome (life), all provide empirical, preliminary, substantive, observable, evidence for design in Nature and therefore mandate a Designer (Isaiah 66:1; Acts 7:49).
The Holy Spirit has clearly articulated that anyone who denies these empirical, supernatural, inexplicable, forms of Nature as testimony relevant to our Creator’s validity will be “without excuse” when they stand in the Judgment before Jesus Christ-Yeshua in Eternity (Romans 1:18-32; Revelation 20:11-15). It is the preliminary evidence of Nature that confronts mankind daily/nightly and is so designed as to draw all men and women to seek knowledge of God and find life in His Name, Jesus Christ-Yeshua.
God has so uniquely created and ordained Nature as testimony and evidence relevant to Himself that He has nullified mankind’s ability to define origin of matter or understand the supernatural Universe He has placed before us (Ecclesiastes 3:11). Origin of matter will, until the end of Time, remain a mystery to mankind as man is cognitively constrained by Time and The Curse; all that is visible and invisible to the human eye in Nature was established, created, by elements from the invisible Spiritual World; therefore, the genesis of our Creation will forever remain an enigma, a mystery, to the mind of man. Anyone seeking Truth, void a personal bias against the validity of our Creator, can easily apprehend and discern the supernatural design of creation mandating a supernatural Creator.
“By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.” Hebrews 11:3 (NASB)
“He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.” Ecclesiastes 3:11 (NASB)
2) The Incarnate, Living Word of God, Jesus Christ-Yeshua
There exists no greater or more popular historical figure than Jesus Christ-Yeshua. The Atheist who rejects the historicity of Jesus simply rejects the overwhelming evidence for His validity readily accessible-available in Biblical and extra-Biblical as well as non-Christian, archeological, sources.
Our Creator did not leave His Human creation to wonder or ponder about the one-true-God and His Plan and purposes for Time and Eternity, but God left the Spiritual Realm some 2019-years ago, He divided history, and entered the Realm of Time in the flesh through a virgin birth that was essential to establish Him as Messiah who would selflessly give Himself to save mankind from death in sin and death in Hell (Philippians 2:5-11; Matthew 1:23).
During the 33.5-years of His Earthly sojourn, Jesus fulfilled over 300-Messianic prophecies as articulated in the Covenant of Law extending from the Genesis to The Book of Malachi. The statistical chances of
1 person fulfilling 8 prophecies: 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000;
1 person fulfilling 48 prophecies: 1 chance in 10 to the 157th power;
1 person fulfilling 300+ prophecies: Only Jesus! (https://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/biblical-prophecies-fulfilled-by-jesus)
In the Gospel of John, Chapter 14 v. 6, Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”
Anyone contemplating the Deity of Jesus Christ in light of the previous Scripture (John 14:6) must come to ONE of only three-conclusions concerning Jesus Christ. Jesus is either a…
1. .
2. lunatic.
3. Lord
Every human being born subsequent to 33-AD and having attained an age of reason with sufficient cognitive acuity to discern the moral law as written upon our heart by our Creator (Romans 2:15) will have to choose between these three-options seeing that their eternal destiny will depend solely upon which option they choose.
3) The written word of God, the Holy Bible
God the Father has not only provided Nature/the Universe and the Son, Jesus Christ-Yeshua as testimony of His validity, power, dominion, but God has also provided a written “Covenant of Grace” (Matthew 26:28) to His human creation through the Holy Spirit. God the Holy Spirit meticulously, supernaturally, moved through the inner-man of 40-men of antiquity, holy men set-apart specifically for the purpose of penning on parchment the Plan and purposes of our Creator; a journey of 1400-to-1600-years, three-continents, three-languages, explaining in detail our origin, our purpose and meaning, God’s moral law and God’s Plan for the destiny of Time and Eternity.
For those who scoff at the integrity of God’s written word and thereby call the Holy Spirit a , understand that the very same Creator who initiated visible matter from the unseen Spiritual World and used same to create this vast supernatural Universe and gave you the breath of life, this very same Creator is abundantly capable and qualified to provide you and provide me with the EXACT words He desires we have so that we can know Him, His Plan and purposes for Time and our individual lives. Irrespective of councils of men and theologians, critics, scholars, all of the efforts of men concerning advocating for or disparaging the Holy Scriptures, know that the Bible remains the best-selling Book in History and that God’s word will NEVER fade away (Matthew 24:35).
Conclusion
Our Creator has provided Human KIND with three-undeniable-forms of evidence relevant to His validity, reality, power, dominion, Deity…
1) Nature.
2) Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Living Word of God.
3) A written covenant, the Holy Scriptures.
Anyone who desires to know God intimately, personally, will find Him and enter into a relationship with Him if they will seek Him with their whole heart…He will be found by them (Jeremiah 29:11-13). God will NOT entertain or commune with a heart that does not truly desire to know Him but He is faithful to make His abode with anyone willing to come to Him in faith and believe that He is true.
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.” Hebrews 11:6 (NKJV)
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1) Nature, by definition, is natural, not supernatural.
2) Many legitimate historians (Christian and Non-Christian) accept Jesus was a real person. What they don't agree on is that he was divine or supernatural. The 'Lord, , Lunatic' argument leaves out a fourth possibility: Legend. Humans have a tendency to embellish - especially regarding admired or feared individuals.
3) The Bible claims to be the word of a god. To accept this claim as evidence of a god would be circular.
Conclusion: Belief and evidence are not the same. When asked why you are convinced of your beliefs, piling on more belief isn't helpful or compelling.
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Your whole argument is circular and void of implication. There is not now or ever any event or happening whose explanation had been proven to be by a supernatural cause , such claims are nonsense and based on nothing but superstitious bunk
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Today, we understand much of what happens, and why. We are learning about the rest. We don't need an ancient "god" as an explanation. We'll figure it out …. if we don't destroy ourselves (and/or the planet), before we get all the answers. No "god" will prevent that, only ourselves.
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I wish the current occupier of the White House was a better reader when I read this! It fits him in SO many ways! If he WAS an actual "Christian" he would see hell on his horizon, and, maybe change?? Nah, just more "fake news".
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"We are all atheists about most of the gods humanity has believed in. Some of us just go one god further." *Richard Dawkins*
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7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Galatians 6:7-8 (NASB)
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